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Cheadle killer sentenced for murdering Man City fan
12:24pm Friday 29th February 2008
Comments (66)A 46-year-old man who stabbed another to death following a confrontation in a Cheadle pub has today been convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.
46-year old-old Paul Moores, of Oakside Close in Cheadle, was convicted of killing Vincent Collins following a trial at Manchester Crown Court. He was ordered to serve a minimum of 15 years.
"Vincent may have been no angel, but he didn't deserve to be brutally attacked in such a cold-blooded attack."
DI Terry Sweeney
On the night of the murder last August, Vincent was with five friends drinking in the George and Dragon pub in High Street at about 7.45pm.
They were very rowdy and started to sing Manchester City football songs, but their singing became more offensive when they started chanting songs about the Munich air disaster.
A barman came over to the group and asked them to stop singing the Munich song. Vincent carried on singing, then went over to Moores - who had been sat quietly drinking on his own - and was seen to jab him in the face.
Moores told him he 'didn't want any bother', but Vincent punched him in the face. Vincent then turned his attention to a couple sat nearby and Moores got up and left the pub.
At this point Vincent's group were told they wouldn't be served any more alcohol. Vincent was stood at the bar, near the toilets, when Moores came back into the pub and calmly walked towards the toilets.
As he passed Vincent, Moores suddenly lunged at him and stabbed him in the back. He pulled the knife out, telling him: "You won't be hitting me again."
Collins then lay on the floor bleeding while his friends went to his aid. Some of them started to fight with Moores and the bar manager called the police.
A number of officers who had been patrolling nearby arrived on the scene within seconds, disarmed Moores after a brief struggle and arrested him.
Vincent was taken to Stepping Hill hospital where he was treated for the single stab wound, but died three days later.
Detective Inspector Terry Sweeney of Stockport CID said outside the court: "This was the senseless killing of a man who died with a single stab wound.
"This was a premeditated attack in which Moores had time to leave the pub, get the knife, and calmly walk up to his victim before stabbing him.
"Vincent may have been no angel, but he didn't deserve to be brutally attacked in such a cold-blooded attack."
What do you think? Is life too long for a provoked attack? Leave your comments below.
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creedie, Cheadle says...
2:18pm Fri 29 Feb 08
What did he think was going to happen by acting like that. He was going to live until 100?
You live by the sword, you die by the sword! And may it be a lesson to all idiots who carry a knife - hit the wrong place and it's a murder charge your're facing.
"The Nettle", moss side says...
2:25pm Sat 1 Mar 08
"The Nettle", moss side says...
2:25pm Sat 1 Mar 08
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
4:11pm Sat 1 Mar 08
creedie wrote:listen this man stabbed was my uncle and the sentence wasnt harsh munich songs had nothing to do with his death you sick man. writin in to little sites like this thinkin no one will see you need to watch your mouth.
To be be perfectly honest, I think the sentence is a bit harsh. This Vince idiot was singing vile songs, causing trouble, and physically assaulting people in this pub. What did he think was going to happen by acting like that. He was going to live until 100? You live by the sword, you die by the sword! And may it be a lesson to all idiots who carry a knife - hit the wrong place and it\'s a murder charge your\'re facing.
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
4:11pm Sat 1 Mar 08
creedie wrote:listen this man stabbed was my uncle and the sentence wasnt harsh munich songs had nothing to do with his death you sick man. writin in to little sites like this thinkin no one will see you need to watch your mouth.
To be be perfectly honest, I think the sentence is a bit harsh. This Vince idiot was singing vile songs, causing trouble, and physically assaulting people in this pub. What did he think was going to happen by acting like that. He was going to live until 100? You live by the sword, you die by the sword! And may it be a lesson to all idiots who carry a knife - hit the wrong place and it\'s a murder charge your\'re facing.
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
4:15pm Sat 1 Mar 08
"The Nettle" wrote:LISTEN WE DONT WANY ANY POLLS OVER WHAT YOU PEOPLE THINK HE GOT LIFE AND DESERVED LIFE HES TOOK A LOVED MAN AWAY FOREVER AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN HUNG HIMSELF SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE DELETE THE POLL
Life should mean life.This report seems a little one sided, there is no mention of Mr moores previous conviction for a stabbing offence,and though Mr Collins in the words of the police officer involved "may have been no angel" and 'may'have caused some bad feeling in the pub, it is certainly no excuse to stab an unarmed man in the back! Perhaps "creedie" would be happy to have Mr Moores come and live next door to him after he has served his "bit harsh" fiteen years,and could also explain to Mr Collins children why he feels that a fifteen year sentence is too long for pre-meditated murder upon their father.
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
4:15pm Sat 1 Mar 08
"The Nettle" wrote:LISTEN WE DONT WANY ANY POLLS OVER WHAT YOU PEOPLE THINK HE GOT LIFE AND DESERVED LIFE HES TOOK A LOVED MAN AWAY FOREVER AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN HUNG HIMSELF SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE DELETE THE POLL
Life should mean life.This report seems a little one sided, there is no mention of Mr moores previous conviction for a stabbing offence,and though Mr Collins in the words of the police officer involved "may have been no angel" and 'may'have caused some bad feeling in the pub, it is certainly no excuse to stab an unarmed man in the back! Perhaps "creedie" would be happy to have Mr Moores come and live next door to him after he has served his "bit harsh" fiteen years,and could also explain to Mr Collins children why he feels that a fifteen year sentence is too long for pre-meditated murder upon their father.
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
4:20pm Sat 1 Mar 08
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
4:20pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jimmy, manchester says...
5:34pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jimmy, manchester says...
5:34pm Sat 1 Mar 08
BB, Longsight says...
6:32pm Sat 1 Mar 08
BB, Longsight says...
6:32pm Sat 1 Mar 08
Niece, Manchester says...
6:40pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jimmy wrote:He wasn't a bully and you wasn't sat in the court room through the trial so you have no idea what happened!! This is one of my family members you are talking about and he did not deserve to die, obviously Paul Moore is a coward as this was a planned attack as he left the pub and returned with a knife!! All this munich **** has only just come out since the trial has finished and there has never been no mention of this before so dont always believe what you read in the papers!!
Yes, I know that it\'s brutal and horrible for a man to lose his life, bit it\'s hard to feel sympathy for a bully that was picking on a lone drinker when he was with all his mates, also he himself found other young men\'s deaths highly amusing.
Niece, Manchester says...
6:40pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jimmy wrote:He wasn't a bully and you wasn't sat in the court room through the trial so you have no idea what happened!! This is one of my family members you are talking about and he did not deserve to die, obviously Paul Moore is a coward as this was a planned attack as he left the pub and returned with a knife!! All this munich **** has only just come out since the trial has finished and there has never been no mention of this before so dont always believe what you read in the papers!!
Yes, I know that it\'s brutal and horrible for a man to lose his life, bit it\'s hard to feel sympathy for a bully that was picking on a lone drinker when he was with all his mates, also he himself found other young men\'s deaths highly amusing.
Family Member, Manchester says...
6:51pm Sat 1 Mar 08
creedie wrote:Was you in the pub that nite or sat in the courtroom?? NO!! You dont have a clue what happened so before leaving your comments find out the facts!! He deserves alot longer than 15 years as he has carried out vicious attacks before!! Maybe you think its a bit harsh because maybe your just as sad and lonely as Paul Moores or maybe you were one of his friends!!! They were a group of lads in a pub having a drink and a laugh there was no bullying to it!! Paul Moore is just an evil man!!
To be be perfectly honest, I think the sentence is a bit harsh. This Vince idiot was singing vile songs, causing trouble, and physically assaulting people in this pub. What did he think was going to happen by acting like that. He was going to live until 100? You live by the sword, you die by the sword! And may it be a lesson to all idiots who carry a knife - hit the wrong place and it's a murder charge your're facing.
Family Member, Manchester says...
6:51pm Sat 1 Mar 08
creedie wrote:Was you in the pub that nite or sat in the courtroom?? NO!! You dont have a clue what happened so before leaving your comments find out the facts!! He deserves alot longer than 15 years as he has carried out vicious attacks before!! Maybe you think its a bit harsh because maybe your just as sad and lonely as Paul Moores or maybe you were one of his friends!!! They were a group of lads in a pub having a drink and a laugh there was no bullying to it!! Paul Moore is just an evil man!!
To be be perfectly honest, I think the sentence is a bit harsh. This Vince idiot was singing vile songs, causing trouble, and physically assaulting people in this pub. What did he think was going to happen by acting like that. He was going to live until 100? You live by the sword, you die by the sword! And may it be a lesson to all idiots who carry a knife - hit the wrong place and it's a murder charge your're facing.
jimmy, manchester says...
8:23pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jimmy, manchester says...
8:23pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jeno, manchester says...
10:36pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jeno, manchester says...
10:36pm Sat 1 Mar 08
BB, Longsight says...
11:31pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jeno wrote:You know that do you? or are you just an idiot that believes everything the papers say???
Vinny himself had a history of violence or has everybody forgotten that?
BB, Longsight says...
11:31pm Sat 1 Mar 08
jeno wrote:You know that do you? or are you just an idiot that believes everything the papers say???
Vinny himself had a history of violence or has everybody forgotten that?
jeno, manchester says...
12:18am Sun 2 Mar 08
BB wrote:I know he carried a knife and was stabbed with his own knife twice. If you knew him, you know that aswell
jeno wrote: Vinny himself had a history of violence or has everybody forgotten that?You know that do you? or are you just an idiot that believes everything the papers say???
jeno, manchester says...
12:18am Sun 2 Mar 08
BB wrote:I know he carried a knife and was stabbed with his own knife twice. If you knew him, you know that aswell
jeno wrote: Vinny himself had a history of violence or has everybody forgotten that?You know that do you? or are you just an idiot that believes everything the papers say???
cynthia, Cheadle says...
9:18pm Sun 2 Mar 08
cynthia, Cheadle says...
9:18pm Sun 2 Mar 08
a mate, leve says...
9:51pm Sun 2 Mar 08
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a mate, leve says...
9:51pm Sun 2 Mar 08
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10:21pm Sun 2 Mar 08
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10:21pm Sun 2 Mar 08
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10:31pm Sun 2 Mar 08
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Creedie, cheadle says...
9:48am Mon 3 Mar 08
Obviosuly it's a tragedy that he's left three daughters and a wife.
Now I know Moores has previous knifing convictions, I take back what I said about 15 years. They should chuck away the key if he didn't learn his lesson after the first time.
All this goes to show what a pit the G&D is anyway. Much prefer the redder end of Cheadle as I always have.
Creedie, cheadle says...
9:48am Mon 3 Mar 08
Obviosuly it's a tragedy that he's left three daughters and a wife.
Now I know Moores has previous knifing convictions, I take back what I said about 15 years. They should chuck away the key if he didn't learn his lesson after the first time.
All this goes to show what a pit the G&D is anyway. Much prefer the redder end of Cheadle as I always have.
family member, leve says...
9:59am Mon 3 Mar 08
family member, leve says...
9:59am Mon 3 Mar 08
family member, leve says...
10:25am Mon 3 Mar 08
family member, leve says...
10:25am Mon 3 Mar 08
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
11:03am Mon 3 Mar 08
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
11:03am Mon 3 Mar 08
Anna, Bredbury says...
11:07am Mon 3 Mar 08
You lot out there should spare a thought for his poor family before you print such crap. Bredbury will never be the same without Vinny and we all miss you so much x
Anna, Bredbury says...
11:07am Mon 3 Mar 08
You lot out there should spare a thought for his poor family before you print such crap. Bredbury will never be the same without Vinny and we all miss you so much x
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
11:07am Mon 3 Mar 08
Niece wrote:Jimmy you ******* **** **** you dont have a clue about anything that has happened over the past months so dont comment on nothing you nonse.
jimmy wrote: Yes, I know that it\\\'s brutal and horrible for a man to lose his life, bit it\\\'s hard to feel sympathy for a bully that was picking on a lone drinker when he was with all his mates, also he himself found other young men\\\'s deaths highly amusing.He wasn\'t a bully and you wasn\'t sat in the court room through the trial so you have no idea what happened!! This is one of my family members you are talking about and he did not deserve to die, obviously Paul Moore is a coward as this was a planned attack as he left the pub and returned with a knife!! All this munich **** has only just come out since the trial has finished and there has never been no mention of this before so dont always believe what you read in the papers!!
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
11:07am Mon 3 Mar 08
Niece wrote:Jimmy you ******* **** **** you dont have a clue about anything that has happened over the past months so dont comment on nothing you nonse.
jimmy wrote: Yes, I know that it\\\'s brutal and horrible for a man to lose his life, bit it\\\'s hard to feel sympathy for a bully that was picking on a lone drinker when he was with all his mates, also he himself found other young men\\\'s deaths highly amusing.He wasn\'t a bully and you wasn\'t sat in the court room through the trial so you have no idea what happened!! This is one of my family members you are talking about and he did not deserve to die, obviously Paul Moore is a coward as this was a planned attack as he left the pub and returned with a knife!! All this munich **** has only just come out since the trial has finished and there has never been no mention of this before so dont always believe what you read in the papers!!
Credie, Cheadle says...
11:26am Mon 3 Mar 08
And I like the way nobody has commented on the very pertinent point made by the guy who sid he new Vincent and he knew he carried a knife and that he was stabbed twice before himself.
I reiterate what I said previously about living by the sword and dying by the sword.
Credie, Cheadle says...
11:26am Mon 3 Mar 08
And I like the way nobody has commented on the very pertinent point made by the guy who sid he new Vincent and he knew he carried a knife and that he was stabbed twice before himself.
I reiterate what I said previously about living by the sword and dying by the sword.
family member, leve says...
12:15pm Mon 3 Mar 08
family member, leve says...
12:15pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Ellie, offerton says...
1:13pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Ellie, offerton says...
1:13pm Mon 3 Mar 08
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
1:37pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Credie wrote:listen u F*****G P***k vinny is my uncle so if you have anyfing else 2 say come 2 me and say it instead of giving it out by your nickname u sad basterda
A typical response by City fan James from Levenshulme! I \'changed my tune\' when I found out something else abiut this Moores guy. And I like the way nobody has commented on the very pertinent point made by the guy who sid he new Vincent and he knew he carried a knife and that he was stabbed twice before himself. I reiterate what I said previously about living by the sword and dying by the sword.
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
1:37pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Credie wrote:listen u F*****G P***k vinny is my uncle so if you have anyfing else 2 say come 2 me and say it instead of giving it out by your nickname u sad basterda
A typical response by City fan James from Levenshulme! I \'changed my tune\' when I found out something else abiut this Moores guy. And I like the way nobody has commented on the very pertinent point made by the guy who sid he new Vincent and he knew he carried a knife and that he was stabbed twice before himself. I reiterate what I said previously about living by the sword and dying by the sword.
family friend, leve says...
1:40pm Mon 3 Mar 08
family friend, leve says...
1:40pm Mon 3 Mar 08
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
1:40pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Ellie wrote:how the **** would the police know were they in the pub? NO. WERE U IN THE PUB? NO. WERE YOU SAT IN COURT ALL WEEK? NO. SO KEEP FUKIN OUT ITS GOT **** ALL 2 DO WITH ANY OF USE
It says on the Greater Manchester Police website that V was singing Munich songs. Check it out if you don\'t beleive. I hardly think the police would spread lies and they were at the trial.
James Mcfc, levenshulme says...
1:40pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Ellie wrote:how the **** would the police know were they in the pub? NO. WERE U IN THE PUB? NO. WERE YOU SAT IN COURT ALL WEEK? NO. SO KEEP FUKIN OUT ITS GOT **** ALL 2 DO WITH ANY OF USE
It says on the Greater Manchester Police website that V was singing Munich songs. Check it out if you don\'t beleive. I hardly think the police would spread lies and they were at the trial.
family friend, leve says...
2:06pm Mon 3 Mar 08
family friend, leve says...
2:06pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Leigh, Bredbury says...
4:46pm Mon 3 Mar 08
It isnt nice for me to sit here and read what your all writing about my dad so if u wud just leave it now!!!
Leigh, Bredbury says...
4:46pm Mon 3 Mar 08
It isnt nice for me to sit here and read what your all writing about my dad so if u wud just leave it now!!!
tony dunn, stockport says...
11:55am Wed 12 Mar 08
nasty chants, but you don't kill someone,all i can say about paul moores,he should of been in hospital long ago, we would not serve him in our pub,he his off his head. i knew it was a matter of time,before he did this, he kept coming back in our pub,we always turned him away
i always looked out for a knife coming out
,because of previous,tony dunn
tony dunn, stockport says...
11:55am Wed 12 Mar 08
nasty chants, but you don't kill someone,all i can say about paul moores,he should of been in hospital long ago, we would not serve him in our pub,he his off his head. i knew it was a matter of time,before he did this, he kept coming back in our pub,we always turned him away
i always looked out for a knife coming out
,because of previous,tony dunn
tom, levenshulme says...
4:33pm Wed 2 Apr 08
tom, levenshulme says...
4:33pm Wed 2 Apr 08
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creedie, Cheadle says...
2:18pm Fri 29 Feb 08
What did he think was going to happen by acting like that. He was going to live until 100?
You live by the sword, you die by the sword! And may it be a lesson to all idiots who carry a knife - hit the wrong place and it's a murder charge your're facing.